From unknown@nodomain.now.au Tue Oct 24 14:07:17 2006 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:07:17 +0100 To: wrh@whatreallyhappened.com Subject: "Why There Almost Certainly Is No God" Message-ID: <20061024130717.GA28051@teasel.arb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Status: RO X-Evolution-Source: imap://rah@teasel/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Dear Michael, I would like to respond to your treatise on the existance of God, in the comment on the story Why There Almost Certainly Is No God on whatreallyhappened.com. Your arguements are based on flawed assumptions. You state that "Throughout history, a wide variety of religions worshiping Molech, Baal, Odin, Jupiter, Zeus, Ahura Mazda, Jehovah, Allah, Quetzalcoatl, Coatlicue, Vishna, and others far too numerous to elucidate here have come and gone. The followers of each of these religions believed that theirs was the true faith and contained within it the correct answers to life's great questions." Firstly, Jehova and Allah are two different names for the Almighty God; they mean the same and refer to the same concept. They are simply different words; one based in Hebrew, the other based in Arabic. This is a small niggle, but I will expand on it below. Secondly, and I assume that you meant Vishnu when you said "Vishna" as that name refers to an element of Hindu faith, whereas "Vishna" doesn't appear to refer to anything. Central to the Hindu religion is that it is not possible to know God; that all religions are simply feeling in the dark and shedding light on one aspect of God. Hindus do not argue that Hinduism is "the true faith" and that they have "the correct answers to life's great questions." They argue that they have their own faith and answers which you may or may not find useful in your life. They explicitly state that their answers cannot be correct, and that if your answers differ, that is fine, as we are all looking at a different aspect of this undefinable thing "God". Vishnu is not *a* God but, in their words, one face *of* God. In both of these points, there is a clear demonstration of ignorance when it comes to the philosophical treatment of religion. It seems that your views are not based on rational education and assessment of religions or philosophy, but a dark desire to paint any kind of religous endeavour as a heinous crime against rationality. This is ironic given the lack of rationality you yourself display. You have written your views on whether or not God exists, but it isn't clear what you mean when you say "God." What do you mean? What are you referring to? You cannot claim that you use it in the same sense as religious people because what people mean by "God" is usually what religions argue over; there is no single definition. Without a clear idea of what you are talking about, one begs the question: why are you talking? Each time you comment on God or religion on whatreallyhappened.com, I find myself asking: why is this guy so strongly opposed to the pursuit of spirituality? I'm not arguing for organised religion, I'm simply pointing out that your arguments against it aren't really arguments at all. For the most part they seem like angry noise, similar to religious zealots and the irony in this seems to be lost on you. To conclude, I would simply ask that you stop before commenting on religious matters and ask yourself "have I researched this enough not to look foolish?" Your site has a relatively high profile amongst those seeking truth rather than propaganda, and for good reason. Your comments on religion let it down, however. I hope you will bear this in mind in future. Kindest regards, Robert Ham Bristol, UK